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Looks like a few twitter reports filtering in that manny arsenaux may be considering a return to the CFL.

Any thoughts?
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Doesn't mean he'll work cheap or that he'll return to the Lions. Interesting though.
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The Lions would likely be outbid by another CFL team. Arseneux might be more proven than E. Jackson or N. Moore, but Manny dropped his share too. He hasn't played for several years so there's no saying he can pickup where he left off...or that he wouldn't need half a season to get back to the level he was at...basically he's a journeyman receiver who isn't worth the 6-figure contract another team will probably give him.
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Actually, NEWS1130 has been hot on this story all week. It seems Manny just "wants to play football" and his first choice is to come back to BC (although he's free to sign with anyone). His agent will be meeting with Wally this weekend at a free agent camp in Las Vegas, but the reports are that "he won't come cheaply"
‏@News1130Sports 9 May #BCLions wil be in the mix for Arceneaux but gm Wally Buono better be ready to cut big cheque.
I would welcome Arceneaux back but not at a really steep price. I don't think the coaches were thrilled with Ernest Jackson's route running or grasp of the playbook last year, but to me he showed tremendous potential and has shown a real commitment to the organization by working out everyday in Surrey for past couple of months. I'd hate to see him lose his job to someone who's leaving his NFL dream kicking and screaming.


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I liked Manny's ability from the first time I saw him at the Lions' training camp. Big. Fast enough. He showed he could run after catch. So it was no surprise when he made the team, and it was no surprise when he did well for us.

Now? Different times. Different situation.

Manny and Wally have a good rapport. But that means very little in terms of him signing with us. As his agent says, he will sign for the dollars. I would expect some CFL teams will far outbid Wally for his services.

And I agree that we don't really know what we will be getting on his return. Almost no playing time. How is the fighting spirit? How is the will to win? I don't think he will be like Geroy in his motivation and preparation. But we would take him on, if it came to that.
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I guess it will come down to just how much he's asking for and how much would be needed by way of signing bonus.

If the signing bonus is low, then TC would show whether he's worth whatever the given contract turns out to be.
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Arceneaux has been a practise roster player for 3 years...we have NO IDEA if he is the same player. You can practise all you want, but if you don't PLAY you go backwards in your development...I can tell you as a Vikings fan, Arceneaux had ONE decent preseason game...that's it...so to contemplate dishing out big bucks on a guy who is all about MONEY and has a penchant for dropping easy passes, I say a big no.

When you don't have contact for 3 seasons, and then come back into the game, the body doesn't react well, especially at his his age.
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I totally agree with you, MexicoLionFan! I would rather give Jackson and Moore the reps than over pay for a guy who hasn't played in a meaningful game in three years.
MexicoLionFan wrote:Arceneaux has been a practise roster player for 3 years...we have NO IDEA if he is the same player. You can practise all you want, but if you don't PLAY you go backwards in your development...I can tell you as a Vikings fan, Arceneaux had ONE decent preseason game...that's it...so to contemplate dishing out big bucks on a guy who is all about MONEY and has a penchant for dropping easy passes, I say a big no.

When you don't have contact for 3 seasons, and then come back into the game, the body doesn't react well, especially at his his age.
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JeerLeader wrote:I totally agree with you, MexicoLionFan! I would rather give Jackson and Moore the reps than over pay for a guy who hasn't played in a meaningful game in three years.
MexicoLionFan wrote:Arceneaux has been a practise roster player for 3 years...we have NO IDEA if he is the same player. You can practise all you want, but if you don't PLAY you go backwards in your development...I can tell you as a Vikings fan, Arceneaux had ONE decent preseason game...that's it...so to contemplate dishing out big bucks on a guy who is all about MONEY and has a penchant for dropping easy passes, I say a big no.

When you don't have contact for 3 seasons, and then come back into the game, the body doesn't react well, especially at his his age.
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JeerLeader wrote:I totally agree with you, MexicoLionFan! I would rather give Jackson and Moore the reps than over pay for a guy who hasn't played in a meaningful game in three years.
MexicoLionFan wrote:Arceneaux has been a practise roster player for 3 years...we have NO IDEA if he is the same player. You can practise all you want, but if you don't PLAY you go backwards in your development...I can tell you as a Vikings fan, Arceneaux had ONE decent preseason game...that's it...so to contemplate dishing out big bucks on a guy who is all about MONEY and has a penchant for dropping easy passes, I say a big no.

When you don't have contact for 3 seasons, and then come back into the game, the body doesn't react well, especially at his his age.
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Players who fail to catch on in the NFL are usually less impressive when they come back to the CFL. Arceneaux was inconsistent when he was here. I would put him ahead of Ernest Jackson on the depth chart but Jackson is fighting for a job already as the No. 3 import receiver on a team that may start only two imports.
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A lot of other teams have less depth and more need at WR than the Lions, so don't over pay but don't expect him to become a Lion.
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I'm trying to think of any REC who did what he did and who has returned better for the NFL experience. Money might be the issue but if he earned decent $$$ (not sure what he was getting down there) maybe to play in BC he'd come cheaper. He did drop some and he hasn't played. Some risk if the money were too high.
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Toppy Vann wrote:I'm trying to think of any REC who did what he did and who has returned better for the NFL experience. Money might be the issue but if he earned decent $$$ (not sure what he was getting down there) maybe to play in BC he'd come cheaper. He did drop some and he hasn't played. Some risk if the money were too high.
I agree with this post.

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Coast Mountain Lion wrote:
Toppy Vann wrote:I'm trying to think of any REC who did what he did and who has returned better for the NFL experience. Money might be the issue but if he earned decent $$$ (not sure what he was getting down there) maybe to play in BC he'd come cheaper. He did drop some and he hasn't played. Some risk if the money were too high.
I agree with this post.

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Frankly I'm not as enamoured with Arceneaux as others, saw too many dropped passes for my liking.
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