Jovan to Alouettes for Foucault and INT OL Vincent Brown (6' 6" 350 lbs).
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Goodbye, big man. Thanks for all your service and commitment to the club and community. You will be missed.
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Lulay is needed to help out Jennings. If Jennings gets hurt or underperforms I have all the faith in the world that he can still perform at a high level and take us to the GC. Also, if you remember, he's the only qb who made drives against Calgary last year in the playoffs. He's worth it and Wally has had a pretty good career so he must know what he's doing - agree or not. My 2 cents.I would much rather be paying Olifioye $200,000 because he not only be be a starter on our offensive line but an exceptional as welll as flexible starter who would make our team better for 2017 than the alternative of not being here this season and forward. Wally didn't ask Lulay to take a pay cut and he is paid more than $200,000 to be a backup quarterback. Lulay has been hurt often since 2012, he is not needed to mentor Jennings this season, and Lulay, in a backup role last year, had a quarterback efficiency average of 80.9.
Quarterbacks as Rakeem Cato, Dan Lefevour, Vernon Adams Jr. James Franklin, Brock Jensen had better quarterback efficency averages. Lulay will likely be long gone when Olifioye is still playing and its time that our Leos developed a backup quarterback rather than paying such a high salary for a backup quarterback. Most CFL teams, including Calgary, do not choose to spend that kind of money on a backup quarterback and we won't be able to afford Lulay anyway, at the end of this season, if we want to keep Jonathan Jennings.
Off-season moves by Buono have always included the removal of at least one veteran player before their due date and the coach/GM of the Lions kept his streak intact earlier in the winter by cutting defensive back Ryan Phillips when the 12-year veteran couldn’t agree to a restructured deal. Money also cost Buono linebacker Adam Bighill when the option window created by the general manager by asking for a pay cut in 2016 turned into a three-year futures deal with the New Orleans Saints.
Olafioye’s exit follows somewhat of a familiar script. The difference this time is that rather than make him accept a restructured deal for less money, the Lions offered Olafioye the chance to strike his own deal elsewhere not wanting to completely insult him yet knowing they couldn’t release him outright either. For weeks, Reed saw Olafioye’s value in a manner similar to the Lions, but eventually found middle ground.
The Olafioye move also gives B.C. a bit of wiggle room in determining their non-import ratio for the coming season. B.C. still isn’t sure if veteran wideout Shawn Gore will return, much less where he would play with Williams ticketed to become a regular if healthy.
Buono, however, has said he was examining ways to ensure his team could start eight Canadians, one more than the league standard, for flexibility, also stating he was uneasy starting three non-imports on defence.
Shipping Olafioye out will mandate the Lions must now start four Canadians on the offensive front. Regardless of whether they get Foucault or for that matter Brett Boyko, who remains in pursuit of his NFL dream, the trade opens up a move back to tackle for Hunter Steward and creates an opening for second-year Canadian Charles Vaillancourt.
But it comes at the expense of the only consistent performer the Lions have had the last six years on the offensive line, a position group which always hasn’t been a position of strength.
Thanks for posting B.C. Fan. Intriguing stuff.B.C.FAN wrote:LU weighs in with some insight and analysis into the trade.
Why the Lions traded all-star Olafioye to Als (hint: money)
Some key excerpts:Off-season moves by Buono have always included the removal of at least one veteran player before their due date and the coach/GM of the Lions kept his streak intact earlier in the winter by cutting defensive back Ryan Phillips when the 12-year veteran couldn’t agree to a restructured deal. Money also cost Buono linebacker Adam Bighill when the option window created by the general manager by asking for a pay cut in 2016 turned into a three-year futures deal with the New Orleans Saints.
Olafioye’s exit follows somewhat of a familiar script. The difference this time is that rather than make him accept a restructured deal for less money, the Lions offered Olafioye the chance to strike his own deal elsewhere not wanting to completely insult him yet knowing they couldn’t release him outright either. For weeks, Reed saw Olafioye’s value in a manner similar to the Lions, but eventually found middle ground.The Olafioye move also gives B.C. a bit of wiggle room in determining their non-import ratio for the coming season. B.C. still isn’t sure if veteran wideout Shawn Gore will return, much less where he would play with Williams ticketed to become a regular if healthy.
Buono, however, has said he was examining ways to ensure his team could start eight Canadians, one more than the league standard, for flexibility, also stating he was uneasy starting three non-imports on defence.
Shipping Olafioye out will mandate the Lions must now start four Canadians on the offensive front. Regardless of whether they get Foucault or for that matter Brett Boyko, who remains in pursuit of his NFL dream, the trade opens up a move back to tackle for Hunter Steward and creates an opening for second-year Canadian Charles Vaillancourt.
But it comes at the expense of the only consistent performer the Lions have had the last six years on the offensive line, a position group which always hasn’t been a position of strength.
Once again, its completely 'spin" to say that we can start four Nationals by trading Olifioye. We could start four Nationals this season (Steward, Fabian, Husband, and Vaillencourt) and keep Olifioye, in terms of roster spots and ratio.Rammer wrote:Just listened to Wally on 1040 with Sekeres and Price. He didn't want to offer anything up on the reasoning other than salary. However at the end he did make a point of saying that the exciting team last year wasn't good enough to compete with the Stamps and players were getting beat. Then he changed it to team as a whole, a calculated seed IMO to point a finger at Olafioye. He did stress being able to play 4 NI's was the flexibility that made the deal worthwhile.
Best wishes for Olafioye, a warrior that the Lions OL leaned on during his tenure.
That makes a lot of sense. Ship your main backup off to the 6G IR where he cannot participate in practices or team meetings until the 5th game has been completed. Then when your starter gets hurt yank him back off the IR, start him and expect him to win.Qman wrote:don't even have to have take a pay cut. Just 6-game him (he is not playing anyways), he gets to keep all the cash and you get cap relief. if JJ10 gets hurt, pull him off the six game list.Blitz wrote: Wally could have chosen to ask Lulay for a pay cut instead of Olifioye or asked both to take a pay cut, which might have minimized the impact and perhaps been more conducive to keep Olifioye here.
Here's the link for the Wally interview on 1040Rammer wrote:Just listened to Wally on 1040 with Sekeres and Price. He didn't want to offer anything up on the reasoning other than salary. However at the end he did make a point of saying that the exciting team last year wasn't good enough to compete with the Stamps and players were getting beat. Then he changed it to team as a whole, a calculated seed IMO to point a finger at Olafioye. He did stress being able to play 4 NI's was the flexibility that made the deal worthwhile.
Best wishes for Olafioye, a warrior that the Lions OL leaned on during his tenure.
What really has me scratching my head WCJ is that, unlike Montreal, we do not have Facault committed to a contract with us prior to the trade.WestCoastJoe wrote:Kavis sees this as a positive for the Alouettes. LOL Yup. Hall of Fame tackle for nothing, if Foucault skates.
A positive for the Lions? Not a chance.
A move to allow Steward to play left tackle? No need to trade Jovan for that.
For this fan, it is all about the cap.
Wally paid up for Williams and Waters. After many other signings, they were nuggets he jumped at.
We fans are happy to have these late signings on board. But, I think we could have gone cheaper than Waters, via trade, draft or free agent.
It is all about the cap, which Wally has always respected most highly. It seems he did not see another way to get back under it.
Not a move from strength. A desperate move to respect the cap, once we overspent re the SMS.
Will we be OK in the O Line? Who knows?
Farewell, Jovan. A classier, more talented, more loyal, more durable player we will likely never see.![]()
Jovan not happy? I expect so.
Good for Jacques. Good for Kavis. Good for the Alouetttes. Good for the Lions? Not a chance. Good for Wally's SMS calculations? Yes.
Just IMO ... All views have merit.
maxlion wrote:According to Farhan, Wally and Foucault had contract discussions before the trade was consumated. It seems a given that he will sign.
Foucault is a prospect on par with Brett Boyko. Olafioye wasn't given away for nothing.