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Who do you want to win the 2020 United States Presidential election on November 3, 2020?

Donald Trump (Republican / Mike Pence)
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30%
Joe Biden (Democratic / Kamala Harris)
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70%
 
Total votes: 10
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Round 2 of the Democratic debates have just completed. Has this helped you decide who should be the best Democratic Presidential candidate?


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Robbie wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:09 pm Round 2 of the Democratic debates have just completed. Has this helped you decide who should be the best Democratic Presidential candidate?
all I know is that the best one is the one mostly likely to beat trump


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Trump will be reelected. You only have to look at the last fifty years. Only Carter and Bush senior only lasted 1 term Its a tough go for Democrats to unseat an incumbent. They generally wait till 8 years r up. Besides Trump looks good on the ugly Americans. BB


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Where is the any functioning adult option?

I voted Pete, bright guy with character. .. there's a lot of options that would be better than trump. hell anybody in this thread is probably better than trump


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Just when you though that Sen. Kamala Harris had a good chance of winning the Democratic nomination especially after the dramatic debate with Joe Biden over the issue of busing, she has decided to end her presidential bid.
Ballistic Bob wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:52 pm Trump will be reelected. You only have to look at the last fifty years. Only Carter and Bush senior only lasted 1 term.
If 50 years ago was 1969, then Gerald Ford's 2 year, 5 month reign from 1974-77 taking over Richard Nixon after his Watergate Scandal should count as well. In the 1976 U.S. Presidential Election, Ford lost a very close election to Jimmy Carter in both popular vote and 297-240 electoral vote. While Americans may not have liked the Watergate scandal, they didn't immediately take it out on Ford otherwise it would been a landslide victory for Carter.


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Robbie wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:07 pm Just when you though that Sen. Kamala Harris had a good chance of winning the Democratic nomination especially after the dramatic debate with Joe Biden over the issue of busing, she has decided to end her presidential bid.
Ballistic Bob wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:52 pm Trump will be reelected. You only have to look at the last fifty years. Only Carter and Bush senior only lasted 1 term.
If 50 years ago was 1969, then Gerald Ford's 2 year, 5 month reign from 1974-77 taking over Richard Nixon after his Watergate Scandal should count as well. In the 1976 U.S. Presidential Election, Ford lost a very close election to Jimmy Carter in both popular vote and 297-240 electoral vote. While Americans may not have liked the Watergate scandal, they didn't immediately take it out on Ford otherwise it would been a landslide victory for Carter.
Harris had no chance of winning that nomination as the major ammo against the former prosecutor was never brought out. Harris was going to be dumped on big time for many cases involving African Americans that she didn't do the right thing on.

The bussing issue was viewed by commentators as bizarre and not relevant. In fact it was that sort of craziness and lack of focus that led to her demise. Today her judgment was questioned about why you'd let fund raising staff go as you were short money. Like the pundits said today you keep those ones as they bring the cash in.


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Harris in the NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opin ... stice.html

Harris was not a "progressive prosecutor."


"Time after time, when progressives urged her to embrace criminal justice reforms as a district attorney and then the state’s attorney general, Ms. Harris opposed them or stayed silent. Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors."

That indictment was not yet used against her. Even Trump did more for criminal justice reform than she did.


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Even though Kamala Harris has dropped out of the Democratic race, there's a small chance that the eventual winner might choose her to be their running mate. But if Joe Biden wins it, it's unlikely he will choose Harris given their nasty mandatory school bussing debate. But other Democratic candidates might consider her. If Elizabeth Warren wins it, I wonder if she will choose Kamala Harris and for the first time it will be an all-woman team.

But it's a fact that the gender card has very little if any factor as there's certainly not an immediately support and affinity of women for women. When there was a VP woman candidate in 1984 and 2008, most American women did not vote for that woman in both cases and of course, when a woman finally became a Presidential candidate in 2016, still women didn't vote her.

The same thing with Canadian women as well as after Kim Campbell became the first woman Canadian Prime Minister in 1993, her Progressive Conservative party finished dead last among the five main parties at the time in the subsequent election. And other times in which there was a woman PM candidate (Audrey McLaughlin and Alexa McDonough of NDP, Elizabeth May of Green) her party never finished higher than fourth.


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President Trump has been impeached by the House of Representatives on two articles, abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. This makes him the third U.S. President to be impeached after Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.

However, like A. Johnson and B. Clinton, it's very unlikely that Trump will be removed from office by the Senate as he will be protected by his Republican majority. A 2/3 majority of 67/100 is required for removal of office, and the Senate consists of 53/100 Republicans who will all vote for Not Guilty.


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祝你老鼠年行大運。
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Whether Trump is removed from office or not, his place in history is sealed. All his tweets and his Republican defenders aren't going to change that.


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I s there a none of the above option , there isn't a decent person on that list.


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pennw wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:11 pm I s there a none of the above option , there isn't a decent person on that list.
No, there isn't such an option as I don't like providing such options as they are just distractions. Whether you like them or not, the fact of the matter is that I'm fairly certain one of those in the list will win the Democratic Nomination. So you might as well choose the candidates will win and if don't like any of them to win, then don't participate in the poll.

As indicated earlier, once the Democratic Presidential Nomination is selected, I'll revise the poll against that Democratic candidate vs. President Trump. We call all agree that 100%, one of those two will win the 2020 Presidential Election, and not any third candidate.


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I am resigned to seeing bozo in the WH for one more term.

Thank God that's is all he can do.


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The USA was already ungovernable and wth Trump's certain acquittal, who knows what he might do.

Trump tells the public he's fixing the health care system.

Doctor confronted VP Pence on cutting medicaid - policy announced that day - and it turns out Trump is taking things away yet his crowd cheers him

https://www.vox.com/2020/1/31/21116673/ ... b-davidson


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It doesn't really matter at this point. My already jaded impression of their politics and their political system has been irrevocably set in concrete. They are #1 in the greatest disparity between opportunity to learn and actual wisdom. Trump is just a symptom of the bigger problem which is that their system, the self proclaimed greatest in the world, is not much better than some of the country's they complain about. Money, influence peddling, character assassination, fabrications, intimidation are way too ingrained in their system and Trump is the most obvious, recent product of that. They need a complete overhaul of their political structures and since they can't even agree on something modest like healthcare, the likelihood that they would have another civil war is greater than their chances of ever working together for the greater benefit.


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