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Riders may not have been looking for a replacement but their fans sure were. They wanted him sent down the Trans-Canada Highway on the kangaroo he rode in on. His average fell off a full 3 yards from the previous year to 40.9 which I think may have been worst in the league and slightly behind Castillo's current pace.
Had he come to the CFL this year he'd likely be a Global player. He remains considered a NAT because he qualified as an NI when he first came to the CFL. Had he joined after they went from NI/IMP to NAT/INT he probably would have been considered an INT and now American. He will remain grandfathered as a NAT as long as he keeps playing no matter how the rules evolve.BC 1988 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:29 pmI see Bartel was a non-import under 2012 rules.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Bartel
What is he now under current rules? (He's not on the roster yet, and they now have A/N/G classes.)
My understanding is that he was often asked to punt to a particular place on field. He never has been a distance punter who will just kick it as far as he can. I'm not saying he's Richie Leone, or even Rob Maver, but should be an improvement on Castillo and allow him to just concentrate on field goals and kick-offs.Hambone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:58 pmRiders may not have been looking for a replacement but their fans sure were. They wanted him sent down the Trans-Canada Highway on the kangaroo he rode in on. His average fell off a full 3 yards from the previous year to 40.9 which I think may have been worst in the league and slightly behind Castillo's current pace.
Well he had the same HC and STC for his last 3 years as a Rider and his numbers declined steadily. His average went from 45.1 (4th) in 2016 to 43.9 (7th) in 2017 to 40.9 (distant 9th 3.6 yards behind #8). His net over that same period was 35.0 (tied for 5th) in 2016, 34.9 (4th) in 2017 and 33.4 (9th) in 2018. The 45.1 in 2016 was a career high and the 43.9 in 2017 his 2nd best season. 40.9 last year was the worst of his 6 seasons. If there is truth re: the system Jones wanted the stats makes one wonder why. Then again Jones considers himself the smartest man in any room. If there was anything memorable last year from watching him it was that Rainey really struggled trying to field those Aussie style end over end kicks. Aussie footy players always let the ball drop nose down when they kick it which creates the end over end action.Gridiron Ernie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:01 pmThis article suggests, as I vaguely remembered, that Bartel's short-average punting had mostly to do with staying within the system then-special-teams coach Craig Dickensen and Chris Jones wanted, emphasis on hang-time and placement. https://www.riderville.com/2018/10/12/n ... r-century/ They were apparently not dissatisfied, according to Bartel. Perhaps take that with a grain of salt, but it seems plausible. I'm happy he's here - show's we're not standing pat. And we shall see how it pans out.
Plu didn't see much action in training camp before going home, and he was well down the depth chart at the slotback position now held by Jevon Cottoy.Gridiron Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:23 pmI was scanning over the Leos' players lists and notice that WR Benjamin Plu (global from France) is back in the den - now newly-listed on the PR. He'd been gone, back home if I recall, and was on the so-called 'suspended' list I believe. Likely personal/family matters of some kind.
So, anyhow, given the underwhelming performances of both our wide-outs (Carter and Shaq J.) in Jarious's oh-so-frustrating system, it might be interesting to plug Mr. Plu into the offence just for a chance to see what he might do under the lights in real action.
I'm wondering if any of you training camp attendees have any takeaways re the fellow? Seems to me he was already gone home for the pre-season games, but I'll stand corrected on that point. I know changing personnel in a stagnant system isn't the fix, but I'm curious nonetheless.
