Re: Terry Jones gives Eric Tillman ... the chalk
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:21 pm
Tillman may come out of the Ricky Ray trade OK. He may, and he may not. It depends on how the Eskimos do this year. I don't think any fans are going to take a long term view. They never do. And it depends on how Ray does with the Argos.
If the Eskimos make the playoffs, that will take a lot of heat off Tillman. And if Ricky Ray has an ordinary season in Toronto, the anger of the fans and media will abate.
I would say the Eskimos might make the playoffs, based on how bad the Riders look as an organization. I would say it is unlikely the Eskimos will get All Star quarterbacking this year.
Could Ricky Ray have led the Eskimos to the Grey Cup in the next year or two or three? Well under Danny Maciocia and Rick LeLacheur the team ran off the tracks. Ricky Ray kept them respectable. A Grey Cup appearance with Tom Brady at quarterback was unlikely.
How will Ricky Ray do in Toronto? It is possible that he will take them to a Cup appearance. It is also possible that he will not make the transition to a different offence all that well. Milanovich's offence sounds complicated. Might have been better to build the offence around Ray's well known strengths. We don't know. But just look at his record, at his stats. Those are not make believe. Those are Hall of Fame credentials. Those are stats and Grey Cup wins to compare to any quarterback ever in the CFL. It is not smoke and mirrors. He can be one helluva quarterback. In a boring, cool as ice, persona. But that very cool can be misleading. He does give his team confidence. And he does have a burning desire to win.
If Ricky Ray leads the Argos to a Grey Cup win in the next year or two or three, the only way Tillman comes out of the trade OK, is if the Eskimos win one also. IMO ... Milanovich is unproven as a Head Coach. Barker has no glowing credi\entials. So if the Argos are to do it, it will be largely because of Ricky Ray.
And for those fans in Edmonton who say Ricky Ray cannot throw the long ball, I would disagree. And for those fans who say he is not mobile I would disagree and also laugh a bit.
One thing most people tend to agree on is that Tillman got very, very little in return.
And his comments justifying the trade were off the wall, not even serving himself well.
If the Eskimos make the playoffs, that will take a lot of heat off Tillman. And if Ricky Ray has an ordinary season in Toronto, the anger of the fans and media will abate.
I would say the Eskimos might make the playoffs, based on how bad the Riders look as an organization. I would say it is unlikely the Eskimos will get All Star quarterbacking this year.
Could Ricky Ray have led the Eskimos to the Grey Cup in the next year or two or three? Well under Danny Maciocia and Rick LeLacheur the team ran off the tracks. Ricky Ray kept them respectable. A Grey Cup appearance with Tom Brady at quarterback was unlikely.
How will Ricky Ray do in Toronto? It is possible that he will take them to a Cup appearance. It is also possible that he will not make the transition to a different offence all that well. Milanovich's offence sounds complicated. Might have been better to build the offence around Ray's well known strengths. We don't know. But just look at his record, at his stats. Those are not make believe. Those are Hall of Fame credentials. Those are stats and Grey Cup wins to compare to any quarterback ever in the CFL. It is not smoke and mirrors. He can be one helluva quarterback. In a boring, cool as ice, persona. But that very cool can be misleading. He does give his team confidence. And he does have a burning desire to win.
If Ricky Ray leads the Argos to a Grey Cup win in the next year or two or three, the only way Tillman comes out of the trade OK, is if the Eskimos win one also. IMO ... Milanovich is unproven as a Head Coach. Barker has no glowing credi\entials. So if the Argos are to do it, it will be largely because of Ricky Ray.
And for those fans in Edmonton who say Ricky Ray cannot throw the long ball, I would disagree. And for those fans who say he is not mobile I would disagree and also laugh a bit.
One thing most people tend to agree on is that Tillman got very, very little in return.
And his comments justifying the trade were off the wall, not even serving himself well.