Brent Johnson

[SammyGreene]

A. MCKENZIE 8 1 0 1
J. GLATT 7 0 0 0
R. FOLEY 4 1 0 0
D. MARSH 4 0 0 0
T. CRAWFORD 4 0 0 0
K. BANKS 3 1 0 0
J. ARMOUR 3 0 0 0
D. TONEY 2 0 0 1
S. WILLIAMS 1 0 0 0
R. PHILLIPS 1 0 0 0
A. HUNT 1 0 0 0
L. GLOVER 1 0 0 0
G. SIMON 1 0 0 0
J. GIBBS 1 0 0 0

Wow doesn't even register a tackle to get on the stat sheet tonight. Just a complete no show the 2nd half of the season — especially in all these critical games. Has 6 sacks on the season and 3 came against the Riders way back on Aug. 2. He has had a great career but at soon-to-be 33 clearly is on his downside and the hill looks to be steep.

[Blitz]

I moaned about Johnson's play last season and all I got was that Brent Johnson was chasing quarterbacks into Cameron Wake for sacks. Delusional! Johnson has 6 sacks this season and like last season he has disappeared in the second half of the football year.

Johnson is slower, has less quicks off the line, and is staring to look like an aging warrior who is on the downhill slide. Johnson was great in 2006, still a quality defensive end in 2007 but his 2008 and 2009 season have been disappointing. It may be something we need to look at next season. It's a shame that McKay-Loescher has back problems because he is a better threat from the short side end position than Brent Johnson.

[OV - 54:40]

Might have been an opportunity to give McQuaig - who was a top notch all-star play-maker/pass-rusher DE in college ball - like Foley was - a few reps on the D-Line to see what he could add; mind you, that's if you have some respect for the back-ups & depth on your roster; kinda late now going into the last game of the season maybe. Hopefully Brent can rebound and put it together for some big games late in the season when it counts, but agreed - his play has seemed to drop off considerably from a number of years back when he was so strong.

[Area51]

This is what's so frustrating about Wally & Bonevides - - how they continue to stick with aging and ineffective favourites. Still waiting for someone to explain why it was Foley sitting on the bench in pass rush situations for the first quarter of the season. Even up until last week BJ stayed in on second and long when they went with the useless 3 man rush.

If you're trying to project CIS stats into the CFL, it's time to get that idea out of your head. McQuaig isn't big enough or strong enough to play end. Speed is adequate, but he'd get eaten at this point in time. Fortunately for him, adding another 20 to 25 pounds of good weight is doable but we'll see if he's willing to do the work to get there.

[Hawkballer 14]

This is what's so frustrating about Wally & Bonevides - - how they continue to stick with aging and ineffective favourites.

JC82, DD and a whole list of others would beg to disagree.

Believe me, if WB believes Brent isn't carrying his weight, he'll be on the next plane out of Vancouver.

[The_Pauser]

This is what's so frustrating about Wally & Bonevides - - how they continue to stick with aging and ineffective favourites.

JC82, DD and a whole list of others would beg to disagree.

Believe me, if WB believes Brent isn't carrying his weight, he'll be on the next plane out of Vancouver.

I agree. I think in the off-season there will be more purging like we saw this year. On that list I would expect to see Buck Pierce, Brent Johnson, Jason Jiminez, and possibly even Jarious Jackson if Lulay wins the backup job in camp (which he very well could).

[OV - 54:40]

This is what's so frustrating about Wally & Bonevides - - how they continue to stick with aging and ineffective favourites. Still waiting for someone to explain why it was Foley sitting on the bench in pass rush situations for the first quarter of the season. Even up until last week BJ stayed in on second and long when they went with the useless 3 man rush.

If you're trying to project CIS stats into the CFL, it's time to get that idea out of your head. McQuaig isn't big enough or strong enough to play end. Speed is adequate, but he'd get eaten at this point in time. Fortunately for him, adding another 20 to 25 pounds of good weight is doable but we'll see if he's willing to do the work to get there.

And it might be the time to an idea out of your head - is pre-conceieved notions that measaureables like weight or bench press # or 4o time are the be all and end all of determining what makes a good football player. Might be time to stick to watching on field football performance. I'd guess your type would have totally written off a guy like Rob Bagg - for the Riders this year - surely he should have got "eaten" by CFL DBs instead of being one of the best receivers in the league - simply because of average to weak 40 or other testing #s or because he is from CIS ball OR because he isn't your hero or a relative or whatever it is that determines your ratings or "observations".

[Rammer]

Well other than an offside call against Mr. Johnson, he wasn't pulling his weight tonight. Perhaps the TV gig on SN on Tuesday's he is too busy writing material to find his game. Sad that this not so long ago DPoY isn't holding up to his ability game after game. Sorry the production to salary isn't in your favour BJ, you have 1, 2, 3 or possibly 4 games to make amends, do so.

[Solar Max]

Perhaps Mr. Johnson is thinking of retiring, hence the dropoff in his play?

[Area51]

And it might be the time to an idea out of your head - is pre-conceieved notions that measaureables like weight or bench press # or 4o time are the be all and end all of determining what makes a good football player. Might be time to stick to watching on field football performance. I'd guess your type would have totally written off a guy like Rob Bagg - for the Riders this year - surely he should have got "eaten" by CFL DBs instead of being one of the best receivers in the league - simply because of average to weak 40 or other testing #s or because he is from CIS ball OR because he isn't your hero or a relative or whatever it is that determines your ratings or "observations".

A WR who lacks speed can compensate with precise routes. A DE who lacks size and strength has no chance in hand to hand combat with an OL who outweighs him by 100lbs or more unless he can compensate for it with speed. The only way to compete in that situation is to be much quicker off the edge - - which McQuaig is not. Hopefully this explanation will help you to better understand the rationale behind my statement.

So unless McQuaig can find lightning in a bottle or pick up 20lbs of muscle in the upcoming week, he's got no chance at competing as a DE. Unfortunate as it might be, that's the reality.

[TheLionKing]

Well other than an offside call against Mr. Johnson, he wasn't pulling his weight tonight.

There were at least 2 offsides credited to B Johnson. Too many offsides tonight. Totally undisciplined.

[David]

So unless McQuaig can find lightning in a bottle or pick up 20lbs of muscle in the upcoming week, he's got no chance at competing as a DE. Unfortunate as it might be, that's the reality.

Scott McQuaig was released by the club the other day. Another cut that went quietly 2 weeks ago was LB Shane Simmons, who never possessed the speed that was promised.

DH

[OV - 54:40]

And it might be the time to an idea out of your head - is pre-conceieved notions that measaureables like weight or bench press # or 4o time are the be all and end all of determining what makes a good football player. Might be time to stick to watching on field football performance. I'd guess your type would have totally written off a guy like Rob Bagg - for the Riders this year - surely he should have got "eaten" by CFL DBs instead of being one of the best receivers in the league - simply because of average to weak 40 or other testing #s or because he is from CIS ball OR because he isn't your hero or a relative or whatever it is that determines your ratings or "observations".

A WR who lacks speed can compensate with precise routes. A DE who lacks size and strength has no chance in hand to hand combat with an OL who outweighs him by 100lbs or more unless he can compensate for it with speed. The only way to compete in that situation is to be much quicker off the edge - - which McQuaig is not. Hopefully this explanation will help you to better understand the rationale behind my statement.

So unless McQuaig can find lightning in a bottle or pick up 20lbs of muscle in the upcoming week, he's got no chance at competing as a DE. Unfortunate as it might be, that's the reality.

Sadly, your type is very confused and unable to comprehend the difference between opinion and "reality" - not to worry though, it's fairly common on the various football opinion boards.

Try sticking to actually watching football players play the game on the field and making comments based on that, instead of living in a pre-conceived notion, theoretical football "reality" that some expert sold you on.

[SammyGreene]

Sorry the production to salary isn't in your favour BJ, you have 1, 2, 3 or possibly 4 games to make amends, do so.

Johnson is the Lions highest paid defensive player with a salary well north of $150,000. Of course it is contract based on his outstanding play from 2005-07. Checking back over the stats ... his last sack was Sept. 4 against Montreal. He hasn't registered even a tackle in three games since — Sept 25 vs Calgary, Oct 9 vs Edmonton and Oct. 31 vs Calgary.

It's also been a horrific season for Aaron Hunt who notoriously starts slow and gets better as the season progresses. Just 4 QB sacks for him — 7 below his ’08 total. He is another veteran Wally was counting on to elevate his game in the absence of Tyrone Williams and others who clearly hasn't.

[Hawkballer 14]

Sadly, your type is very confused and unable to comprehend the difference between opinion and "reality" - not to worry though, it's fairly common on the various football opinion boards.

Try sticking to actually watching football players play the game on the field and making comments based on that, instead of living in a pre-conceived notion, theoretical football "reality" that some expert sold you on.

Wow. Could you have been any more condescending?