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Hi Dale If and when they start its after the Olympics are finished. Not much of a window to put up a temporary stadium. BBBlue In BC wrote:WHEN do they start work at Empire stadium?
Why the delay? Is there are anything going on there through the Olympics that would preclude setting up until then? Is there a manpower issue (i.e. Olympics consuming most available labour)? Or is it simply the case that they don't really need more than 3.5–4 months to get it all ready?Ballistic Bob wrote:Hi Dale If and when they start its after the Olympics are finished. Not much of a window to put up a temporary stadium. BBBlue In BC wrote:WHEN do they start work at Empire stadium?
Interesting! The 1991 season was before I started following football. My comments were based on my observations over the last 6 years I have been attending, which saw a sharp growth, a levelling-off at 31 to 34,000 for 4 years, and then a decline last year. It's the casual fans who jumped ship last year that prompted my comments. I appreciate your historical perspective, though. (By the way, I see the 'average' over 55 years is 27,652, and from '83-'08 is 29,498.)Robbie wrote:Two previous examples state otherwise.
For most Lion fans, the most exciting non-championship season would be 1991 with attendance often exceeding 40,000+ but was the team winning much? A 11-7 is not terrible but considering the team was only 4-5 at home and a third place finish caused by an embarrassing loss to the worst team in the league the regular season finale plus a terrible defence, I wouldn't say the team was winning much at all. And yet, Vancouverites attended Lions games despite a losing record at home.
I for one would prefer the highly underrated season of 1999 in which the Lions led the west division throughout the season and finished first in the west for the first time in 12 years to host a playoff game. And yet, typical home attendance in 1999 was often less than 20,000 even though the club finished with a respectable 13-5 season and first in the west since 1987.
For what its worth I heard its a security issue having big trucks coming in out of Vancouver during that 3 to 4 week shut down and then maybe the temporay seating the Olympics are using for their events. BBsj-roc wrote:Why the delay? Is there are anything going on there through the Olympics that would preclude setting up until then? Is there a manpower issue (i.e. Olympics consuming most available labour)? Or is it simply the case that they don't really need more than 3.5–4 months to get it all ready?Ballistic Bob wrote:Hi Dale If and when they start its after the Olympics are finished. Not much of a window to put up a temporary stadium. BBBlue In BC wrote:WHEN do they start work at Empire stadium?
The PNE grounds is involved in the Olympics, Tempire would site next to the PNE grounds, the reasons would be security and not wanting the world to see this messy construction right next to an Olympic Venue.Blue In BC wrote:Any delay seems nuts and unnecessary. Are they expecting to put up a stadium in 3 months?
It's not like all construction is going to shut down across the lower mainland until March.
No doubt it's too keep the roads open. Why have big trucks needing lanes to load up the material? I think they'd like to keep government construction jobs quiet then.sj-roc wrote:[
Why the delay? Is there are anything going on there through the Olympics that would preclude setting up until then?
I've long been a supporter of an outdoor stadium so I'm actually looking forward to the return to Empire Stadium site. However, I find the " security issues " that caused delays to updating BCP and the temporary site, over the top.Lionheart wrote:May I top up your beer Dale? Your mug seems half empty. I've got a cold pitcher...
Perhaps it goes back to the old say about while it's the defence that wins games, it's the offence that brings tickets.Whisperin' Jimmy wrote:Interesting! The 1991 season was before I started following football. My comments were based on my observations over the last 6 years I have been attending, which saw a sharp growth, a levelling-off at 31 to 34,000 for 4 years, and then a decline last year. It's the casual fans who jumped ship last year that prompted my comments. I appreciate your historical perspective, though. (By the way, I see the 'average' over 55 years is 27,652, and from '83-'08 is 29,498.)Robbie wrote:Two previous examples state otherwise.
For most Lion fans, the most exciting non-championship season would be 1991 with attendance often exceeding 40,000+ but was the team winning much? A 11-7 is not terrible but considering the team was only 4-5 at home and a third place finish caused by an embarrassing loss to the worst team in the league the regular season finale plus a terrible defence, I wouldn't say the team was winning much at all. And yet, Vancouverites attended Lions games despite a losing record at home.
I for one would prefer the highly underrated season of 1999 in which the Lions led the west division throughout the season and finished first in the west for the first time in 12 years to host a playoff game. And yet, typical home attendance in 1999 was often less than 20,000 even though the club finished with a respectable 13-5 season and first in the west since 1987.
So, what do you think is the factor driving gate fluctuations, if not the fortunes of the team on-field? I ask that in all seriousness, since comparing performance to attendance it does seem a little random.
Wow - and I thought I had too much free time!!Robbie wrote:Check out what I wrote on this thread:
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Just ask Greg Kerfoot how long this council takes to make a decision. BBDavid wrote:If this cluster**fudge** is allowed to fester, without a confirmed location by January or a contruction schedule in place, I can see us playing on the road for the first several games of the season - meaning for the first time in years we will be playing more home games after Labour Day than before.
This City Council has no clue. From continuing the Burrard Bridge bike lane experiment without a proper consultation process to closing the Bloedel Conservatory and Stanley Park petting zoo, to tearing down venerable old Maxine's Hideaway on Bidwell street to put up ANOTHER CONDO(!), these people need to be tossed. Literally.
DH