Winnipeg vs. Saskatchewan Western Semi-Final

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Gridiron Ernie wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:08 pm
Ambrosie has issued a statment on the head hit: unfortunately he indicates waiting till the off-season to look into the role the Command Centre might play in these instances. But, at least it's in his mind to go that way.
https://www.cfl.ca/2018/11/11/randy-amb ... ridge-hit/
He has no choice but to wait until the offseason for that. It's the sort of change that has to be thought through thoroughly, not as a fast knee-jerk reaction. As noble and simple as the concept of empowering the Command Centre to call a penalty on such a play seems what are the implications? When Ambrosie arbitrarily reduced the number of challenges to one the #1 motivating factor was to improve the flow of the game because fans were fed up with the constant interruptions and "fishing" expeditions being used.

Dropping the number of challenges was a simple move. It improved game flow while all but eliminating "fishing" expeditions unless the coach still has the challenge flag burning a hole in his pocket in the waning minutes of a game. Ambrosie got the results he desired.....or did he? In the wake of yesterday's game some fans, perhaps some who lauded Ambrosie's decision to reduce challenges, are opining that maybe a coach should get a second challenge if they are successful on the first one; in other words creeping more challenges back into the game little more than a year after reducing them.

To allow the Command Centre to review such hits typically would come from careful consideration by the Rules Committee. The RC has to also consider the negative aspects of which obviously the impact to game flow would be most prominent. Do they give the CC carte blanche to stop the game to review every play where it appears helmet-to-helmet contact happens? Shoulder targeting head? All ball carriers? QB only? Carte blanche could easily add another 15 minutes to 30 minutes or more to the length of a game if the CC has to stop it to look at anything that looks close to an infraction. The challenge for the Rules Committee would be to come up with protocols that would allow for Command Centre reviews while at the same time keep game flow impact at a minimum.

As for allowing the "eye in the sky" to halt proceedings to review something like yesterday's incident that is really attempting to address the symptom, not the cause. The threat of such a review would not have prevented that play. If not for Lavoie stepping in front of Vallesi's view at the precise time the contact was made the call and subsequent 15 yard penalty very likely would have been made. No doubt supplementary discipline will happen, likely the same as Willis received. That would happen regardless of a penalty being assessed during the game.

To truly help take such plays out of the game there needs to be more pieces to the process than simply letting the Command Centre review and assess 15 yard penalties. They need to consider what the NCAA does which is to allow ejection of the player if the review determines the defender did indeed initiate the type of contact deemed to have crossed the line. In NCAA football a player can be ejected if contact is initiated with the crown of the helmet which is defined as any part of the helmet behind the face mask. Basically anything other than the grill to helmet could result in ejection; top, side and even the back of the helmet count as crown. Maybe the CFL needs to allow for 2 coaches challenges with the distinction being that one can be for football plays only while the other can only be used to challenge a play involving player safety.
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Gridiron Ernie wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:43 pm
Also, even though in today's Western Semi the head referee's view was momentarily obstructed on the Bridge/Jeffcoat play in question, why none of the other officiating crew stepped up and called a penalty is extremely disappointing, given the fact they've been empowered to do so -- or so I thought.
Personally I love the refcam as it gives us fans the opportunity to see things from the vantage point of the on-field officials who get only one full speed look at things. Yesterday showed why officials are only human and can miss things due to circumstances they really can't control like a player simply stepping in their way. Fans like to vent from upon their grassy knolls armed with multiple slo-motion replays from multiple angles. Quite often it takes 3 or 4 different views before seeing the Aha! moment that clearly shows what actually happened

All officials have their defined areas of primary responsibility (see below). The other officials still have to see the contact to call it. The umpire is the other official with some responsibility in the offensive backfield. He's primarily looking for things like holding, chop blocks, hands to the face all while trying to keep out of the way of a bunch of 300# behemoths while having to look over, around and sometimes through them. Keep in mind it's only been since either 2014 or 2015 that the umpire was positioned in the offensive backfield. Prior to that he was positioned behind the defensive line but all too often found himself in the line of fire either being run over by players or inadvertently getting in the way of passes on patterns over the middle. The other 5 officials are usually too busy trying to follow play behind the defensive line and in particular what's going on between receivers and defenders, watching for DPI, OPI, Illegal Contact, Illegal Blocks Downfield, being in position to determine if a ball is caught, where the ball carrier is downed or goes OB etc. The Referee and Umpire have a fairly small area to concentrate in comparison to the other 5 who typically have to watch an area 63 yards wide x 50 yards deep.

SECTION 2 – JURISDICTION & DUTIES OF OFFICIALS

Article 1 – General
All field officials are equally responsible for the conduct of the game and no agreement shall be undertaken that would prevent the calling of any foul, against either team, by an official. Each field official shall be equipped with a whistle and a coloured marker to be
used to indicate a foul. The sounding of the whistle shall stop the game. The throwing of a marker indicates that a foul has been committed, but play shall continue until its termination. The signal of “time in” shall be a clockwise sweep of the Referee’s arm from the overhead position and the sounding of the Referee’s whistle.

Article 2 – The Referee
The Referee shall take primary charge of the game and shall:
• Guide and direct the efforts of the other officials
• Enforce the rules and apply penalties
• Adjudicate upon disputes or matters not provided for in the rules
• Take position behind Team A in order to observe that the ball is put into
play legally and thereafter judge its possession and progress
• Cover the actions of passers and kickers and the defensive actions of
opponents
• Cover lateral passes and onside kicks behind the line of scrimmage
• Be primarily responsible for marking balls Out of Bounds in flight
• In co-operation with the Head Linesman keep count of the downs
• Notify each team captain when three minutes remain to be played in each
half and furthermore may:
o Overrule any other official
o Cause the removal of any Sideline official and, if necessary,
o Require the replacement of such Sideline official
NOTE: The Referee will have sole authority to judge when a measurement is
required to determine if first down yardage has been gained.


Article 3 – The Umpire
The Umpire shall have jurisdiction over the conduct and actions of players on the scrimmage lines of both teams and shall take a position opposite the Referee behind the Offense (Team A).

Article 4 – The Back Judge
The Back Judge shall have jurisdiction over the conduct and actions of players of both teams on Team B’s side of the line of scrimmage and shall be responsible for Sideline violations downfield.

Article 5 – The Side Judge
The duties of the side judge shall be identical to those of the Back Judge.

Article 6 – The Field Judge
The Field Judge shall have jurisdiction over the conduct and actions of players of both teams on Team B’s side of the line of scrimmage and shall take a position downfield between the hash marks.

Article 7 – The Head Linesman
The Head Linesman shall supervise and control the Yardsmen and their actions in the placement and movement of the yardsticks, under the direction of the Referee. He shall record the number of each down and assist the Referee in this respect and shall systematically check the Sideline for player substitutions and ensure that only approved substitution procedures are used.

Article 8 – The Line Judge
With the exception of:
(a) the supervision and control of the Yardsmen, and,
(b) the recording of downs,
the jurisdiction and duties of the Line Judge are identical to those of the Head Linesman.
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Thanks for these detailed responses, Hambone. Can't disagree with your well-sorted thoughts on the Command Centre/penalties matter, and found the Jurisdiction and Duties of Officials info very educational. Appreciate the effort; both theirs game in and game out, and yours.
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The NCAA targeting rule includes more than leading with the crown or helmet in making a tackle. It also includes launching oneself at a defenseless player - crouching and then driving up into a defenseless player with feet still in contact with the ground and also blows to the head by a shoulder, forearm, elbow or fist. The key seems to be hitting a defenseless player. The initial call is a 15-yard penalty and a review with the command center as to identifying the hit as targeting. Targeting "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball." Rules 9.1.3 and 9.1.4. After video review, if targeting is confirmed, the player is ejected for the remainder of the game - if the violation happens in the second half they are ejected and miss the first half of the next game.

I would like to see something like this in effect in the CFL. I would increase the time missed to the current game and at least the next game. Let the safety panel decide if any additional action is taken based on the severity of the hit, the overall intent to injure and if the player is a repeat offender . The reason why I double the length of time missed is that college teams play about half the games CFL teams do.
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