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How nice it is to have news to watch that isnt 80% Olympic related.
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KnowItAll wrote:How nice it is to have news to watch that isnt 80% Olympic related.
Why is that? You don't like the Olympics?
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Lion Guy wrote:
KnowItAll wrote:How nice it is to have news to watch that isnt 80% Olympic related.
Why is that? You don't like the Olympics?
two answers.

I - I have been on record since the first rumour of vancouver olympics that I did not want it here due to cost and other negative effects.

2 - I dont mind olympics elsewhere, but I dont think we the taxpayer should pay one cent thru the govt for the cost of athletes training and attendance at olympics.
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Which of the following are you against.

1. The thousands of man years worth of employment in construction and business's supporting that work.
2. Creation of new permanent sports facilities and updating to existing venues.
3. New full time jobs created due to these new venues.
4. The trickle down affect of all the costs to business.
5. Income tax, property tax and sales tax collected.
6. The hundreds of millions of dollars of tourism
7. Improvement to Sea to Sky Highway which hopefully reduces the numbers of deaths on the highway.
8. Sports

Just curious.
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well given the past decades lack of progress and development in Vancouver I think this will help bring some much needed tourism to BC. I mean maybe it will make the top 50 most desirable places to live in the world if not north america. Of course the cost of living may slightly increase in Vancouver and Whistler but the investment should be helpful for our stellar social systems and we should be able to maintain services.
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nelson95 wrote:well given the past decades lack of progress and development in Vancouver I think this will help bring some much needed tourism to BC. I mean maybe it will make the top 50 most desirable places to live in the world if not north america. Of course the cost of living may slightly increase in Vancouver and Whistler but the investment should be helpful for our stellar social systems and we should be able to maintain services.

What?

I thought I had a dry sense of humour. But you man are the king of dryness.
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Blue In BC wrote:Which of the following are you against.

1. The thousands of man years worth of employment in construction and business's supporting that work.
2. Creation of new permanent sports facilities and updating to existing venues.
3. New full time jobs created due to these new venues.
4. The trickle down affect of all the costs to business.
5. Income tax, property tax and sales tax collected.
6. The hundreds of millions of dollars of tourism
7. Improvement to Sea to Sky Highway which hopefully reduces the numbers of deaths on the highway.
8. Sports

Just curious.
All of this exists, but does it offset the nine billion cost? Probably not.

Anyways I remember vividly when we were building expo86. A lot of talk about why are we doing this, that costs too much money, that looks ugly (I worked at the larger pavilions) what's the point. Then opening day happened and it all changed. The most incredible change in the air.. and pubs.. and streets.. :rockin:
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Lionheart wrote:
Blue In BC wrote:Which of the following are you against.

1. The thousands of man years worth of employment in construction and business's supporting that work.
2. Creation of new permanent sports facilities and updating to existing venues.
3. New full time jobs created due to these new venues.
4. The trickle down affect of all the costs to business.
5. Income tax, property tax and sales tax collected.
6. The hundreds of millions of dollars of tourism
7. Improvement to Sea to Sky Highway which hopefully reduces the numbers of deaths on the highway.
8. Sports

Just curious.
All of this exists, but does it offset the nine billion cost? Probably not.

Anyways I remember vividly when we were building expo86. A lot of talk about why are we doing this, that costs too much money, that looks ugly (I worked at the larger pavilions) what's the point. Then opening day happened and it all changed. The most incredible change in the air.. and pubs.. and streets.. :rockin:
$9 Billion? Every time somebody uses a financial figure it keeps going up. This is the biggest number I've heard yet. Maybe you are being factious?

What is the general breakdown of $9 billion?

Does it include the the Sea to Sky Highway which needed to be done in any case?
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I'm using the best source out there that I know of. I forget his name at the moment but writes for twenty four hours. He's done alot of digging on this. He did a good interview on the team (actually two) that talked about costs. Regardless, no one is ever going to know the real costs as we'll never get the true number from the government if in fact they know. The shell game is too far complex now, and yes I'm sure it includes Sea to sky which NO did not and would not have been done anyway.
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Lionheart wrote:I'm using the best source out there that I know of. I forget his name at the moment but writes for twenty four hours. He's done alot of digging on this. He did a good interview on the team (actually two) that talked about costs. Regardless, no one is ever going to know the real costs as we'll never get the true number from the government if in fact they know. The shell game is too far complex now, and yes I'm sure it includes Sea to sky which NO did not and would not have been done anyway.
The Sea to Sky is something that had to be done, if the games didn't arrive this would have been put off well into the future. However, the Oly's did allow for the Federal Government to send us back some of BC Taxpayers dollars for a change. To me, that highway is a fringe benefit of the games, along with a couple of other venues.
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Regardless of how much money was spent, it was spent building infrastructure. It created jobs including some permanent situations post events. This was the first time I heard this amount mentioned.

I don't see that as a bad thing.

I'm not particularly a supporter of the Olympics in the sense I have no interest in watching any of the action. OTOH, I would say I support having the Olympics as a taxpayer.

We'll never know the true cost but we'll also know how much money is brought into the Canada by those that attend.

There will be long term benefits similar to when we had Expo 86.
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Blue In BC wrote:There will be long term benefits similar to when we had Expo 86.
:whs:

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It is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to have fun..at a world-wide party.
Once? Um no.. Why limit yourself?
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