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Rider GM Brendan Taman will ask to fire HC Corey Chamblin - Gary Lawless' source
Andrew Bucholtz By Andrew Bucholtz
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Saskatchewan Roughriders' general manager Brendan Taman is reportedly set to ask for the authority to fire head coach Corey Chamblin. (CBC.)

The Saskatchewan Roughriders' 30-5 loss to the Edmonton Eskimos Friday marked the team's first 0-6 start to a season since 1979, and now, it appears it has them set to take drastic action. Gary Lawless of The Winnipeg Free Press and TSN 1290 Radio reported on TSN Saturday that according to a source he described as "a senior Riders' executive," Saskatchewan general manager Brendan Taman is set to propose firing head coach Corey Chamblin to team president Craig Reynolds. Here's exactly how Lawless phrased it:

"Saskatchewan Roughriders' GM Brendan Taman is set to recommend the firing of head coach Corey Chamblin. A senior Riders' executive says Taman will meet with team president Craig Reynolds as early as Sunday to discuss the future direction of the team. Taman, says the source, would like to take advantage of an upcoming bye week to put an interim head coach in place for the remainder of the season. The Argos play in Toronto next weekend then have a bye. If given the go-ahead, Taman would fire Chamblin after the Argos' game and then use the bye week to install a new coach. It's unknown if Reynolds will allow Taman to put a plan in place to move forward or insist on the status quo. If Taman is told not to fire Chamblin, the senior Riders' executive believes the Riders' board would then wait and enact a major housecleaning at the end of the season, which would include the firing of Taman. The most obvious candidates for an interim head coaching position are former B.C. Lions' head coach Mike Benevides and former Winnipeg Blue Bombers head coach Paul LaPolice."

It's notable that this is a substantial change from what Lawless reported earlier this season. Two weeks ago after the Riders fell to 0-4 with a home loss to B.C., Lawless reported that Taman had no intention of firing Chamblin, and that if asked to do so by Reynolds or the board, he'd refuse. That doesn't mean the earlier report was necessarily inaccurate; it's quite possible Taman's opinion has changed, as the last two weeks have seen two particularly devastating losses for the team (with Friday's 30-5 thumping by Edmonton looking especially bad) and a significant long-term injury to quarterback Kevin Glenn. However, it is interesting that he would go from refusing to fire Chamblin at any cost to being the one who asks for the authority to fire him. If both reports are accurate, that could be a last-ditch attempt on Taman's part to keep his own job.

The way this information has come out is at the very least questionable, though. Lawless has a strong track record when it comes to CFL reporting, and he was named the Football Reporters of Canada's reporter of the year a few seasons back, so there's good reason to believe he's accurately relaying what he's been told, but that doesn't mean the information itself is accurate. You have to wonder why a "senior Riders' executive" would find it in the team's interest to leak this information to a reporter; this seems like it's only going to make the team look bad, especially as if it is true, it will have first Taman and then Chamblin twisting in the wind. Sources leak all sorts of things for all sorts of motives, of course, so this may well play out as Lawless has been told, but it seems highly curious both that Taman would reveal this kind of information to anyone else in the organization before meeting with Reynolds and that the recipient of that information would then decide to pass it on to the media (and to a Winnipeg columnist rather than a local reporter). Again, that doesn't mean Lawless is wrong, but if he does prove to be right, that raises significant questions about the Riders' organization and why their "senior executives" are undermining their bosses publicly.

As per the merits of this move, if it does play out according to either of Lawless' scenarios (Taman fires Chamblin, or both fired at the end of the year)? From this corner, it seems like a vast overreaction. Yes, the Riders are 0-6, and yes, they're coming off a particularly bad loss, but we're talking about a head coach and a general manager who led this team to a Grey Cup championship just two years ago. Bad seasons happen, especially when you lose your top two quarterbacks, and this isn't even necessarily a bad season overall yet; we're only a third of the way through.

Yes, Taman's plan to go into this season with an aging group of players can be questioned, and so can Chamblin's reluctance to change his defensive scheme or delegate more of the running of the defence to others (Darrell Davis makes excellent points on that front here). Yes, there should probably be some pressure on both to adapt; NFL cuts are coming up soon, and Taman could find some players there, or perhaps swing a trade, while Chamblin could do a lot to turn this defence around if he showed some more flexibility. Calling for heads after just six games seems a little much, though, especially when the people involved recently won a Grey Cup and have put together plenty of good seasons. We'll see what happens, but if things play out as Lawless has reported, neither of those scenarios is necessarily the best long-term move for the Roughriders.
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I wonder what Rob Peterson thinks ?
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If the rumour is true, Taman is likely just trying to save his job. Reynolds should say, "NO, you don't have permission to fire Chamblin. I'm firing both of you." He would promote Jeremy O'Day to GM and ideally offer a three-year contract (this year and the next two) to Paul PaPolice as head coach. That would buy plenty of goodwill in Riderville and buy the time needed to undertake the rebuilding job that has been overdue under Taman and Chamblin.
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B.C.FAN wrote:If the rumour is true, Taman is likely just trying to save his job. Reynolds should say, "NO, you don't have permission to fire Chamblin. I'm firing both of you." He would promote Jeremy O'Day to GM and ideally offer a three-year contract (this year and the next two) to Paul PaPolice as head coach. That would buy plenty of goodwill in Riderville and buy the time needed to undertake the rebuilding job that has been overdue under Taman and Chamblin.
Taman is as much to blame as Chamblin is, in typical GM fashion his loyalty to his HC is fleeting knowing that it may be the buffer for his own job. I tend to agree with Wally on this one, it is better to do the firing in the off season, not now. Taman chose to use Chamblin for this season, the firing should reflect on his job performance.

It should at minimum put a rather uncomfortable situation in Riderville, and that is never a bad thing, however this turns out.
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B.C.FAN wrote:If the rumour is true, Taman is likely just trying to save his job. Reynolds should say, "NO, you don't have permission to fire Chamblin. I'm firing both of you." He would promote Jeremy O'Day to GM and ideally offer a three-year contract (this year and the next two) to Paul PaPolice as head coach. That would buy plenty of goodwill in Riderville and buy the time needed to undertake the rebuilding job that has been overdue under Taman and Chamblin.
Not so sure LaPolice would take the job. Seems to have a nice, safe gig with TSN. Safe in the studio.

OK, if the money is right. Somewhere North of $350,000, South of $500,000?
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With all the buzzards circulating overhead, Chamblin is essentially a lame duck coach. It's not even a question of whether he will be fired but when ....
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TheLionKing wrote:With all the buzzards circulating overhead, Chamblin is essentially a lame duck coach. It's not even a question of whether he will be fired but when ....
A HC stepping in now comes with some risk. The timing sucks.

Chamblin should have been forced to act to get a DC as his record is very thin at the CFL level as a DC.

But let's face Chappy didn't help him yesterday getting his backup gunning it all over. It was just a matter of time give the play calls where he was going to fail and sure enough 2 horrid INTs and it's a rout. The punter clown going to make it 5 didn't help him - but put that on the HC.

Cato of MTL was helped big time and not forced like the Riders QB to come out in his first game gunning. Chappy should be manured for that game plan and I don't give a rats arse how they lined up at the line. Get around them - mix it up. Franklin of the Esks too. Bring them on too much, too quick and you end their careers.
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The Riders should fire Taman and keep Chamblin. I doubt the coach has gotten "stupid" since they won the Cup in 2013. More likely injuries to their 1st and 2nd-string QB's is a bigger factor. Taman just flies by the seat of his pants, signing every castoff available from other CFL teams. Firing the coach now will prove nothing with the QB's they have. Why hang the upcoming losses on the new coach, while Chamblin is still getting paid (and is likely one of the highest paid coaches in the league...for the next couple years). At least let him play out the string and re-evaluate the entire management structure in the off-season. :ref:
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JohnHenry wrote:The Riders should fire Taman and keep Chamblin. I doubt the coach has gotten "stupid" since they won the Cup in 2013. More likely injuries to their 1st and 2nd-string QB's is a bigger factor. Taman just flies by the seat of his pants, signing every castoff available from other CFL teams. Firing the coach now will prove nothing with the QB's they have. Why hang the upcoming losses on the new coach, while Chamblin is still getting paid (and is likely one of the highest paid coaches in the league...for the next couple years). At least let him play out the string and re-evaluate the entire management structure in the off-season. :ref:
You fire him because he brought in his own DC, the defense is one of the league's worst and the club is 0-6.

That offensive line coaching hire doesn't look too swift either.

Also, he's lost control of the locker room from the looks of it.

The only question is whether Taman goes too.
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TheLionKing wrote:As the world turns

http://www.tsn.ca/riders-gm-chamblin-to ... h-1.340311
"We'll be getting rid of both of you at the end of the season.

Good luck!"
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cromartie wrote:
TheLionKing wrote:As the world turns

http://www.tsn.ca/riders-gm-chamblin-to ... h-1.340311
"We'll be getting rid of both of you at the end of the season.

Good luck!"
I foresee a complete housekeeping at the end of the season. Rider future does not include Taman or Chamblin
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http://www.riderfans.com/forum/showthre ... ired/page3

Some funny lines in this Riders forum thread. Those toothless Rider fans can at least come up with some witty lines.

The Lawless story said if not Chamblin fired now, both by season's end. So he can't be trashed for his failed prediction.

But firing mid season with no DC in place as it's held by the HC is tougher to do.

But Chamblin has to change something with this team.

Focus on Chappy bringing in some plays that this QB can execute - if it's the same plan as last week next time they play, it will be a long, long night and IIRC they play in Hamilton next?

Their DEF is predictable.

Chamby looks to have lost his team.
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I'm thinking that both Riders and Lions will be looking for a DC at the end of the season.
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DanoT wrote:I'm thinking that both Riders and Lions will be looking for a DC at the end of the season.
God I hope so :cr: :cr: Perhaps a new Special Teams Coach may not be a bad idea.
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