Blitz wrote:I agree that you can win (and teams have) with both athletic quarterbacks and high efficiency pocket quarterbacks. I have a preference for the athletic type for the CFL.
I don't think Travis Lulay is one of a kind. We've seen quarterbacks like him many times before and will again and that's not taking anything away from Lulay. Henry Burris had a number of seasons similar to the one Travis Lulay had this season.
I had said that Lulay was a one of a kind QB at this time. I don't see his like anywhere else in the CFL. Of course there have been athletic quarterbacks before. Hard to say how much Burris has left, although he looks to be in good shape physically.
No, Tillman did not need to gamble and conventional wisdom would say that he should not have.
Agreed. Looks like I am with the conventional wisdom this time. LOL Oh well ...
Like you though, I wonder if Tillman got fair value in the trade. Toronto really needed a proven quarterback and like you I believe Edmonton could have held out for more or not made the trade.
Yes. We agree Tillman could have gotten more in return.
* We do seem to place a different value, however, on how much Ricky Ray brings to a team as its quarterback.
* We might disagree on whether Tillman could have built a Grey Cup contender around him.
* We might also disagree on whether Tillman has a QB in the pipeline who can lead the Schmos to the Grey Cup.
* And we might disagree on how likely it is for the Eskimos to have a dynamic passing attack next year, in the absence of Ricky Ray.
It's obvious I rate Ray very, very highly. Hall of Fame first ballot. Not easy to replace. At this time, IMO, the second most valuable player in the league, after Lulay. IMO Ray is very much a franchise quarterback, which to me, means that one could build a Grey Cup level team around him (Heck they have already done it twice with him).
I am very happy to have him in the East, one less danger in the West. The Argos will be interesting for a change.
Could Ray flop in Toronto? Seems very unlikely. He might be better. He might be the same. He might be somewhat less effective. I expect him to be every bit as effective as he has been.
Could Tillman pull a rabbit out of the hat? Find a top level quarterback? Sure. I do think though, that he virtually gave Ricky Ray away.
All of this, of course, is just IMO ...